We can’t discourse

While driving around last night to pick up some New Year’s Eve supplies, I heard a snippet of a Hannity radio show that reminded me of our advanced society’s weakness in handling discourse.

It went something like this:

Hannity: Your guy has spent a lot of money.

Lady Caller: Well, he inherited all that spending from Bush.

Hannity: Bush added $4 trillion to debt in 8 years. Obama added $6 trillion in 4 years. That wasn’t all inherited from Bush.

Lady Caller: Well, I’m a small business owner. I know you have to spend money to make money. [Inconsistency]

Hannity: Well, he’s going to keep spending it for the next 10 years.

Lady Caller: You don’t know if that’s true. He hasn’t yet. Well, if the Republicans get in power, we won’t have any workers rights. [Red herring]

Hannity: Workers’ rights? ¬†etc.

I don’t listen to a lot of talk radio, but I would expect better discourse control from Hannity. He’s been at this for years. For this lady, you don’t even have to make any of your own points. Just steer her back into her own fallacies and watch her crash and burn on her own words.

He should have stopped the conversation at her inconsistency, exposed her ludicrous ‘spend money to make money’ reasoning and not even addressed her red herring of workers rights until she adequately explained the previous two problems in her dialogue.

The conversation should have gone a little like this:

Hannity: Your guy has spent a lot of money.

Lady Caller: Well, he inherited all that spending from Bush.

Hannity: Bush added $4 trillion to debt in 8 years. Obama added $6 trillion in 4 years. That wasn’t all inherited from Bush.

Lady Caller: Well, I’m a small business owner. I know you have to spend money to make money.

Fantasy Hannity: Stop. First, you blamed Obama’s spending on Bush. Then you supported Obama’s spending by saying you have to spend money to make money. Is spending money good or bad?

Fantasy Lady Caller: Well,I didn’t like how Bush spent it. Obama has been spending it to get the economy going.

Fantasy Hannity: Okay.You think Obama is a better investor than Bush. That’s rational. It may not be true, and so far does not seem to have proven out since it’s not apparent whether the big increases in government spending has helped or hurt, but it’s rational.

Now, you said you have to spend money to make money. In your business, is there any restriction on how much money you spend? How long would you stay in business if you planned to spend 30% more money than you brought in for the foreseeable future.

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One thought on “We can’t discourse

  1. what about an alternate suggestion, because humans tend to view their side of the argument as stronger than it is in reality.

    fantasy hannity2: your guy has spent a lot of money
    fantasy lady2: a lot of that money was spent on “automatic stabilizers” that are codified into law. this includes unemployment, food stamps, etc.
    fantasy hannity2: but the deficit is a bigger problem than providing insurance for everyone.
    fantasy lady2: the largest cause of budget deficits is that tax receipts are down due to the Great Recession. and what are the consequences of running a budget deficit now?
    fantasy hannity2: soaring interest rates, inflation, and socialism! everyone knows that.
    fantasy lady2: but interest rates are at record lows, inflation has stayed low, and i’m personally not too worried about socialism since all economies are a mix of government actions and private actions.
    fantasy hannity2: well i’m always worried about socialism. that stuff is sneaky and we must always be vigilant!
    fantasy lady2: i’m glad you are on watch and not me. thanks hannity!

    see everyone gets along in my version.

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